Ever heard of RAW image files? What did you expect? A lunar satellite spitting out compressed lossy jpeg images? Of course it's put through Photoshop, otherwise you would sit with a 100 MB image file! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format
Guys.. please. Any proof that this jpeg is the original source, the raw image taken by the Lunar Orbitor? No, this is merely a jpeg export from Photoshop, simply used to crop and resize the larger image.
Oh ... my ... God... Why is it that ignorant morons always have to notice crap like this, and blow it out of proportions.
The only thing this prooves, is that someone at NASA is using Photoshop to prepare images for the press.
It prooves nothing about image manipulation.
The file-header (wich is what is shown here in the hex-editor) only shows that the image has been through Photoshop, not what has been done to it.
More often than not, space-images are enhanced before shown to the public - usually in the sense that a specific part of the image has been enlarged, brightnes/contrast adjusted, or somethine else entirely, to make the image more presentable, and easier to view.
Though considdering the amount of conspiracy-theorists out there, it's unfortunate that NASA didn't think of this...
But even if NASA releases the original RAW images, it won't proove anything...
Why is it we can image a license plate on a car thru the Earth's atmosphere, yet the best resolution we can get from a multi-million dollar lunar orbiter is this low-res crap? I say NASA has something to hide!
"Why is it we can image a license plate on a car thru the Earth's atmosphere, yet the best resolution we can get from a multi-million dollar lunar orbiter is this low-res crap? I say NASA has something to hide!"
What a dumbass. What makes you think that NASA has to read something the size of a license plate for the purpose of this probe's mission? Secondly, this isn't the best resolution the lunar orbiter can get. Go to the LRO's website at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html. These are the first images taken and were take PRIOR to the probe entering it's final orbit. They are expecting images with 2-3 times the resolution then which is plenty enough for a mapping mission.
To the conspiratards on this page, you can cry and whine and shake your bratty little heads for the rest of your worthless lives and thats fine because the truth has TIME on it's side.
These six sites are all just patiently waiting there for time to weed out the fools. The LEMs, the experiments, the rovers, even the footprints lie there waiting, virtually unchanged since the day they were tamped into the lunar surface.
You remind me of the debate that surely flamed(along with witches at the stake) in the 16th and 17th century as fools clung to the Ptolemaic concept that the Earth was the center of the universe. We all know who lost that debate and there's no doubt who will lose this one.
Here's how relavant you guys are - when our great grandkids visit the Apollo 11 gift shop(they'll have to be rich, which precludes your decendents), occasionally one or two will chuckle to themselves that there were people who, in their stupidity, didn't believe the landings took place.
And then you will have finally joined your 16/17th century kin and be worth nothing more than a chuckle.
Funny how the people who still believe the Government lie are so angry and abusive.
They can't address the issue in a rational or sane way, because the landings were an impossibility just like these NASA Photoshop images. So they resort to childish and insulting name calling instead.
Now apparently only poor people don't believe the NASA lie? Well that argument has about as much evidence for it as the moon landings do.
Carry on believing what you are fed by The Man, rather than thinking for yourselves, suckas.
Moon landing supporters remind me of the type of brainwashed 'useful idiots' who believe/d or claim/ed Iraq had WMDs or Saddam Hussein did 9/11.
No amount of evidence to demonstrate it's just a Government con will convince them.
You said....."What a dumbass. What makes you think that NASA has to read something the size of a license plate for the purpose of this probe's mission? Secondly, this isn't the best resolution the lunar orbiter can get. Go to the LRO's website at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html. These are the first images taken and were take PRIOR to the probe entering it's final orbit. They are expecting images with 2-3 times the resolution then which is plenty enough for a mapping mission."
Wanna make a bet right here and now, you dipshit, that NO High Res Images of the landing areas are ever scanned by this orbiter? You are a Kool-Aid drinking fool. I don't really know one way or another if the US really landed men on the moon in 1969. But it is getting mighty suspect when they parade such shitty images out there for public consumption.
"would convince any of you Conspiritards that man has actually landed on the moon?" And the opposite! How can convince an American that was not landed in the moon and they were all wrong? It is impossible! Because they live in a glass bell jar!
Having weighed the arguments and data from both sides, it seems to me that really only the moonlanding side has any legs to stand on. Not to mention the sheer illogic of most of the conspiracy theories out there relating to tampering data.
Pretty much the only thing at this point that'll convince me that nobody landed on the moon would be an independent agency building and launching a spacecraft(manned or unmanned), launching it off to the moon, and surveying the whole damn satellite and not returning with a thing. And the entire process would have to be entirely transparent so as to prevent tampering with data on the conspiracy theorists' end as well.
The US conducted the lunar expeditions for really only one purpose - to get there before the USSR. If there had been a snowball's chance in hell that the moon landing didn't happen, the Soviets would have been all over it. I can understand how people could doubt it, but, politically, it makes no sense to believe that the lunar landing didn't happen.
Ok. This proves nothing at all and these are not lo-res images. This image is 1.14 meters per pixel which is pretty good. They also said they will take even higher resolution images at a later orbit. You can download the original 94 MB TIFF image at http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/nacr00000ada
And everybody uses Photoshop. If you want to say this is proof that we did not go to the moon, then you will need to PROVE alteration of data.
For a decent, comprehensive look at "conspiracy theory" check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory For me, "conspire" or "breathe together" boils down to two or more people lying and/or committing some harmful deeds together.
To those who emphatically believe that government/business agencies can do no wrong, can tell no lies, I only say that someday a little truth will leak into your state of ignorance (or out of it).
To those who believe we might be lied to a lot, have bad stuff done to us, but who are a bit leery to accept the more extreme nutbar views of reality, and wonder whether a whole bunch of liars can successfully keep secrets without a bunch of leaks...
Consider the flouride issue. The dominant official view is that putting flouride into the drinking water reduces dental cavities in kids. Even if true, the delivery method is completely, inarguably inappropriate. It is like saying that cars can be protected from corrosion by applying wax, and therefore implementing a continent-wide aerial cloud-seeding program to cause wax to rain down on the cars (and everything else). In reality, flouridation was dreamed up as a solution to a corporate/business waste-disposal problem and inflicted on the public through a vast conspiracy. Even now, when the occasional municipality, acting in integrity and truth, gets the "Cloud-Seeding" program stopped over their heads, the dominant pro-flouridation machine rolls on.
For details about just how deceitful and obnoxious this industry has been and continues to be: http://www.trufax.org/catalog/fluoridechrono.html
For me, the US and Canadian governments are pathological liars and harm-doers, and suspicion is the only intelligent stance.
Did multiple crews of humans pass through the radiation belts and physically land on the moon and return alive? I'd like to believe they did. I believe there is probable cause for suspicion. For me, one of the smoking guns is that NASA released photos for separate missions which image analysis has revealed to come from identical raw images - more photoshopping.
My main point is: become aware of how much we are surrounded by what we don't want; don't resist that; just use that awareness to imagine what we want instead and focus our thoughts on that - on new ways of being; Decouple, detach, de-TV, de-news, de-matrix from the old. Decide for something unimaginably new.
I want to believe we went...but, the lack of dust on the lunar lander legs and foot pads make me suspicious. Check out the NASA photos. NO dust on any of them.
Google Earth set to view the Moon I found two UFOs. Some type of machinery.Located at 64 degrees 09'34.23"SOUTH by 162 degrees 13'45.11" EAST. 23 off lunar surface.Go look for yourself. NASA took these Photos.Of course there will some nut that want believe their eyes.
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Haha, WTG Nasa. I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will be sated with PSed pics XD
NASA goes to the moon again with the help of Adobe Photoshop lol
holshit its true!! i opened the NASA pics myself in just notepad and it says there too Photoshop CS Windows 2009!! WTF!!!
Ever heard of RAW image files? What did you expect? A lunar satellite spitting out compressed lossy jpeg images? Of course it's put through Photoshop, otherwise you would sit with a 100 MB image file!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format
Guys.. please. Any proof that this jpeg is the original source, the raw image taken by the Lunar Orbitor? No, this is merely a jpeg export from Photoshop, simply used to crop and resize the larger image.
Fucking morons ... the file header proves nothing !!
Oh ... my ... God...
Why is it that ignorant morons always have to notice crap like this, and blow it out of proportions.
The only thing this prooves, is that someone at NASA is using Photoshop to prepare images for the press.
It prooves nothing about image manipulation.
The file-header (wich is what is shown here in the hex-editor) only shows that the image has been through Photoshop, not what has been done to it.
More often than not, space-images are enhanced before shown to the public - usually in the sense that a specific part of the image has been enlarged, brightnes/contrast adjusted, or somethine else entirely, to make the image more presentable, and easier to view.
Though considdering the amount of conspiracy-theorists out there, it's unfortunate that NASA didn't think of this...
But even if NASA releases the original RAW images, it won't proove anything...
Damn if you do, damned if you don't...
Why is it we can image a license plate on a car thru the Earth's atmosphere, yet the best resolution we can get from a multi-million dollar lunar orbiter is this low-res crap? I say NASA has something to hide!
can someone answer this... would the flag really need a rod across the top. like, wouldn't it stay up anyway due to the lower gravity on the moon?
NASA are sooo BUSTED here!
"Why is it we can image a license plate on a car thru the Earth's atmosphere, yet the best resolution we can get from a multi-million dollar lunar orbiter is this low-res crap? I say NASA has something to hide!"
What a dumbass. What makes you think that NASA has to read something the size of a license plate for the purpose of this probe's mission? Secondly, this isn't the best resolution the lunar orbiter can get. Go to the LRO's website at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html. These are the first images taken and were take PRIOR to the probe entering it's final orbit. They are expecting images with 2-3 times the resolution then which is plenty enough for a mapping mission.
"can someone answer this... would the flag really need a rod across the top. like, wouldn't it stay up anyway due to the lower gravity on the moon?"
Lower gravity is still gravity. The moon has 1/5 the earths gravitational pull on the surface, so of course a fabric flag would droop quite easily.
"NASA are sooo BUSTED here!"
Yeah, you're right. They really DID go to the moon. An all this time NASA said they didn't. They ARE sooo BUSTED.
Dumb f***
To the conspiratards on this page, you can cry and whine and shake your bratty little heads for the rest of your worthless lives and thats fine because the truth has TIME on it's side.
These six sites are all just patiently waiting there for time to weed out the fools. The LEMs, the experiments, the rovers, even the footprints lie there waiting, virtually unchanged since the day they were tamped into the lunar surface.
You remind me of the debate that surely flamed(along with witches at the stake) in the 16th and 17th century as fools clung to the Ptolemaic concept that the Earth was the center of the universe. We all know who lost that debate and there's no doubt who will lose this one.
Here's how relavant you guys are - when our great grandkids visit the Apollo 11 gift shop(they'll have to be rich, which precludes your decendents), occasionally one or two will chuckle to themselves that there were people who, in their stupidity, didn't believe the landings took place.
And then you will have finally joined your 16/17th century kin and be worth nothing more than a chuckle.
Funny how the people who still believe the Government lie are so angry and abusive.
They can't address the issue in a rational or sane way, because the landings were an impossibility just like these NASA Photoshop images. So they resort to childish and insulting name calling instead.
Now apparently only poor people don't believe the NASA lie? Well that argument has about as much evidence for it as the moon landings do.
Carry on believing what you are fed by The Man, rather than thinking for yourselves, suckas.
Moon landing supporters remind me of the type of brainwashed 'useful idiots' who believe/d or claim/ed Iraq had WMDs or Saddam Hussein did 9/11.
No amount of evidence to demonstrate it's just a Government con will convince them.
Attention grabbing without even basic knowledge - FAIL.
Hey, jcw!
You said....."What a dumbass. What makes you think that NASA has to read something the size of a license plate for the purpose of this probe's mission? Secondly, this isn't the best resolution the lunar orbiter can get. Go to the LRO's website at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html. These are the first images taken and were take PRIOR to the probe entering it's final orbit. They are expecting images with 2-3 times the resolution then which is plenty enough for a mapping mission."
Wanna make a bet right here and now, you dipshit, that NO High Res Images of the landing areas are ever scanned by this orbiter? You are a Kool-Aid drinking fool. I don't really know one way or another if the US really landed men on the moon in 1969. But it is getting mighty suspect when they parade such shitty images out there for public consumption.
Of course they had to put it through Photoshop, dumbass. Where do you think the scale came from?
Why did they need to put a scale on it? That's right, they didn't.
As it is, you don't need $600 high end image editing software to write the words "500 Meters" on an picture.
Yet again the moon landing fundamentalists prove they can't accept a different point of view without getting angry and abusive.
Oh. my. dog. What the flying fuck would convince any of you Conspiritards that man has actually landed on the moon?
I'm betting nothing - you've already made up your minds that nothing would convince you.
You people should crawl out of your mom's basement sometime and get a life
"would convince any of you Conspiritards that man has actually landed on the moon?"
And the opposite! How can convince an American that was not landed in the moon
and they were all wrong? It is impossible! Because they live in a glass bell jar!
Having weighed the arguments and data from both sides, it seems to me that really only the moonlanding side has any legs to stand on. Not to mention the sheer illogic of most of the conspiracy theories out there relating to tampering data.
Pretty much the only thing at this point that'll convince me that nobody landed on the moon would be an independent agency building and launching a spacecraft(manned or unmanned), launching it off to the moon, and surveying the whole damn satellite and not returning with a thing. And the entire process would have to be entirely transparent so as to prevent tampering with data on the conspiracy theorists' end as well.
The US conducted the lunar expeditions for really only one purpose - to get there before the USSR. If there had been a snowball's chance in hell that the moon landing didn't happen, the Soviets would have been all over it. I can understand how people could doubt it, but, politically, it makes no sense to believe that the lunar landing didn't happen.
Ok. This proves nothing at all and these are not lo-res images. This image is 1.14 meters per pixel which is pretty good. They also said they will take even higher resolution images at a later orbit. You can download the original 94 MB TIFF image at http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/nacr00000ada
And everybody uses Photoshop. If you want to say this is proof that we did not go to the moon, then you will need to PROVE alteration of data.
For a decent, comprehensive look at "conspiracy theory" check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
For me, "conspire" or "breathe together" boils down to two or more people lying and/or committing some harmful deeds together.
To those who emphatically believe that government/business agencies can do no wrong, can tell no lies, I only say that someday a little truth will leak into your state of ignorance (or out of it).
To those who believe we might be lied to a lot,
have bad stuff done to us, but who are a bit leery to accept the more extreme nutbar views of reality, and wonder whether a whole bunch of liars can successfully keep secrets without a bunch of leaks...
Consider the flouride issue. The dominant official view is that putting flouride into the drinking water reduces dental cavities in kids. Even if true, the delivery method is completely, inarguably inappropriate. It is like saying that cars can be protected from corrosion by applying wax, and therefore implementing a continent-wide aerial cloud-seeding program to cause wax to rain down on the cars (and everything else).
In reality, flouridation was dreamed up as a solution to a corporate/business waste-disposal problem and inflicted on the public through a vast conspiracy. Even now, when the occasional municipality, acting in integrity and truth, gets the "Cloud-Seeding" program stopped over their heads, the dominant pro-flouridation machine rolls on.
For details about just how deceitful and obnoxious this industry has been and continues to be: http://www.trufax.org/catalog/fluoridechrono.html
For me, the US and Canadian governments are pathological liars and harm-doers, and suspicion is the only intelligent stance.
Did multiple crews of humans pass through the radiation belts and physically land on the moon and return alive? I'd like to believe they did. I believe there is probable cause for suspicion. For me, one of the smoking guns is that NASA released photos for separate missions which image analysis has revealed to come from identical raw images - more photoshopping.
My main point is: become aware of how much we are surrounded by what we don't want; don't resist that; just use that awareness to imagine what we want instead and focus our thoughts on that - on new ways of being; Decouple, detach, de-TV, de-news, de-matrix from the old.
Decide for something unimaginably new.
I want to believe we went...but, the lack of dust on the lunar lander legs and foot pads make me suspicious. Check out the NASA photos. NO dust on any of them.
Google Earth set to view the Moon I found two UFOs. Some type of machinery.Located at 64 degrees 09'34.23"SOUTH by 162 degrees 13'45.11" EAST. 23 off lunar surface.Go look for yourself. NASA took these Photos.Of course there will some nut that want believe their eyes.
Even Russians are outing Apollo...
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=247168
Read and weep!
I went to Egypt in '06 and I put my photos through photoshop to clean them up. That doesn't mean I didn't go.
Morons.
I'll believe people are capable of landing on the moon/space travel when I see it with my own eyes...in real time.
People lie all the time. Governments are made up of people. It wouldn't be the first time.
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